[izpack-users] Shortcuts created directly by shortcutspanelinstead of during actual installation ? ?

Grégory Joseph joseph.gregory at gmail.com
Thu Dec 7 19:00:11 CET 2006

Ok - thanks for your replies - I realized after I sent my that
changing the order of my panels would simply solve my issue. I don't
have time either to work on izpack at the moment... and I'm affraid if
I did, I'd be to radical in refactoring ;)


On 07/12/06, Bartz, Klaus <Klaus.Bartz at coi.de> wrote:
> Hi greg,
> yes, IzPack is not transactional, a full roll back is not allways
> possible. If you kill a process, you can only
> roll back if you have stored the state in a program independant
> data base. This is not the case in IzPack.
> You know, you should place the ShortCutPanel after the InstallPanel
> because the files to which the short cuts should be created have
> to be exist.
> There are more Panels which needs something of the installed files.
> I agree with Markus that it is better to separate user input and
> perform actions. In my own panels I do it. But although it cannot
> be transactional with IzPack until we write every step into a
> data base. I think this will be in IzPack NT... Before them only
> regular break operation can be rolled back. If it really needed, MSI
> will be the better alternative. Have a good time with that data base
> driven installation... I know what I say...
> The ShortCutPanel was designed and implemented long time before
> custom actions are present. May be it will be now time to split
> it in a GUI part and a custom action which creates the short cuts.
> But I have not the time and may be not the knowledge to do it.
> May be one of you can create a secound short cut feature and send
> it to us. But not as replacement else as a second, please.
> It seems so, that bug and feature request service of BerliOS
> will be often arranged but also often not so much cultivated.
> We are with ~ 60% closed bug requests relative good :-)
> May be we should close the services because we do really not look
> every day into. We read our emails...
> Cheers
> Klaus
> >-----Original Message-----
> >From: izpack-users-bounces at lists.berlios.de
> >[mailto:izpack-users-bounces at lists.berlios.de]On Behalf Of Markus
> >Schlegel
> >Sent: Thursday, December 07, 2006 4:58 PM
> >To: izpack-users at lists.berlios.de
> >Subject: Re: [izpack-users] Shortcuts created directly by
> >shortcutspanelinstead of during actual installation ? ?
> >
> >
> >I absolutely agree, that this should not behave like it does now.
> >The "Freeze" may happen, because the file the shortcut points
> >to does not yet exist at this point...
> >
> >Notice, that the IzPack Installer shows the shourtcut panel
> >after copying the files, which is not common since most
> >installers do ask the user all questions before installing something.
> >
> >Markus
> >
> >-----Original Message-----
> >From: izpack-users-bounces at lists.berlios.de
> >[mailto:izpack-users-bounces at lists.berlios.de] >On Behalf Of
> >Grégory Joseph
> >Sent: Thursday, December 07, 2006 3:02 PM
> >To: izpack-users at lists.berlios.de
> >Subject: [izpack-users] Shortcuts created directly by
> >shortcuts panelinstead of during actual installation ? ?
> >
> >Hi,
> >
> >I'm surprised to see that it seems that shortcuts are created
> >directly when going to the next panel, from the shortcut
> >panel, rather than at the same time files are copied etc. This
> >causes at least 2 obvious
> >problems:
> >* freezes the gui during shortcut creation (which for some
> >reason is pretty slow here on our remote windows test machine)
> >* shortcuts are already there and stay there if the
> >installation fails for any reason.
> >
> >As a side note, I was wondering if the bug report tools of
> >berlios are used at all for izpack (i was going to search and
> >report there), since it seems there are some reports that have
> >been there since 2005, sometimes 4 times for the same problem
> >(the infamous missing ShellLink.dll for instance)
> >
> >Cheers,
> >
> >greg
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